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Gaming Discussion => PC Gaming => Topic started by: scobeto on May 01, 2010, 11:46:42 AM

Title: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: scobeto on May 01, 2010, 11:46:42 AM
I'm really looking forward to this.

Here (http://www.swtor.com/media/trailers/video) are some trailers and such. The new combat video is really cool.

Anyone else keeping an eye on it? I'll be defecting from WoW for it :P
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on May 01, 2010, 10:36:58 PM
If I ever decide to play another MMO this will be the one.  I know others have tried, but I think this is THE WoW killer.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Geese on May 03, 2010, 09:36:11 AM
I haven't followed this much, but my 3 second speculation is that if it doesn't have world-streaming (a minimum of load screens) then it's not going to be a WoW killer. I can only speak for myself, but its the thing that sticks out most to me when I try a new MMO. Being able to seamlessly travel from area to area without a load screen makes the world feel so much larger and real. All the other MMOs feel very compartmentalized.

Imagine playing GTA4 and every 5 blocks you have to go through a toll-booth load screen. That's what all the non-WoW MMOs feel like to me.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: adamsappel on May 03, 2010, 10:35:11 AM
I've never played WoW, but isn't your "loading screen" the vast distance you have to travel between places? While you're moving through unpopulated areas, the destination with all the people and fighting and such is loading in the background.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Geese on May 03, 2010, 10:50:07 AM
I've never played WoW, but isn't your "loading screen" the vast distance you have to travel between places? While you're moving through unpopulated areas, the destination with all the people and fighting and such is loading in the background.

Not exactly. You aren't traveling vast unpopulated areas. It's true you might have to travel a long distance to get to where you are going, but the entire way is populated with enemies, quests, and places to explore.

The only time you get a load screen is when you travel from one continent to another, or enter an instanced dungeon.

It's just like GTA. There's all kinds of things going on and things that can happen during travel.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Beer Monkey on May 03, 2010, 12:01:13 PM
I was finally going to break my MMO cherry with TOR but at this point my (post-divorce) social life is in overdrive and I have almost no time for gaming as it is.  So I guess I'm going to be passing.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: vortech on May 03, 2010, 12:29:24 PM
How do you make other people pay for your mistake of over-pulling if there is no zone you can train them to?  Man.  you kids.  Back in MY dayÖ
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Glockdeucedeuce on November 08, 2010, 03:51:55 PM
what is the targeted release date for TOR?
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on August 11, 2011, 07:21:59 AM
what is the targeted release date for TOR?

12/31/11.....  I preordered the collectors edition two days ago!
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Glockdeucedeuce on August 11, 2011, 09:20:06 AM
I shall probably need to put in a pre-order now that i have a beefy video card to run it.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on August 12, 2011, 11:44:32 PM
Jon pre-ordered as well.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Oaktree 76 on August 25, 2011, 04:47:39 PM
Yes I have, looking forward to it
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on September 24, 2011, 09:43:08 PM
December 20th release date confirmed!!!   :D

http://www.swtor.com/news/news-article/20110924
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: scobeto on November 11, 2011, 02:39:48 PM
Woot!!

I got invited to a weekend beta test that starts tonight! Too bad it's only for the weekend...
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on November 11, 2011, 08:42:49 PM
I got the invite email too...  How do I get to play?  There are no links in the email and when I sign in at the main SWTOR site... still nothing.

I'm guessing by the vaugeness of the email, this might not be my weekend.  I'm assuming mine will be an "upcoming" weekend.   :'(

Tony,  I know about the NDA, but if you actually get in, at least let us know if you like it.  I've read that people are having a hell of a time getting on and queues and client download times are crazy long.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: scobeto on November 12, 2011, 08:46:20 AM
I got the invite email too...  How do I get to play?  There are no links in the email and when I sign in at the main SWTOR site... still nothing.

The email I received was sent last week and did contain links to download the game client. I received the same email you are referring to yesterday.

I would really like to post some comments on the game, but the Game Testing Agreement doesn't allow a great deal of wiggle room. According to the terms, I can post that there is a test and I am a part of it.

So yes, there is a test. I have been a part of testing it well into the morning hours and, after a few hours sleep, got up to start testing again...
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on November 12, 2011, 08:58:08 AM
Good.... Glad you were able to get in.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: adamsappel on November 12, 2011, 02:14:08 PM
So yes, there is a test. I have been a part of testing it well into the morning hours and, after a few hours sleep, got up to start testing again...

All I can take from that is it is a terrible game and you are playing it a lot just so you can be sure how terrible it is.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on November 12, 2011, 07:16:18 PM
So yes, there is a test. I have been a part of testing it well into the morning hours and, after a few hours sleep, got up to start testing again...

All I can take from that is it is a terrible game and you are playing it a lot just so you can be sure how terrible it is.

Haha, yeah sounds terrible.   :P
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on November 22, 2011, 10:47:25 AM
So I got my invite for this weekend and I got an email that had me download the client.  I did that, but see nothing new on my desktop.... got another email that had a button to install the game and when I double click that it opens up a browser window that has the afforementioned download client button. 

WTF?!?  Now, in fairness, I was doing this in a hurry b/c I got the email first thing this morning and was in a hurry to get ready for work.  But it seemed pretty straight forward.  Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Geese on November 22, 2011, 11:04:04 AM
So I got my invite for this weekend and I got an email that had me download the client.  I did that, but see nothing new on my desktop.... got another email that had a button to install the game and when I double click that it opens up a browser window that has the afforementioned download client button. 

WTF?!?  Now, in fairness, I was doing this in a hurry b/c I got the email first thing this morning and was in a hurry to get ready for work.  But it seemed pretty straight forward.  Am I missing something?

Use the Force, Luke.

(I'm sorry. That was too easy.)
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on November 22, 2011, 11:05:11 AM
Hahaha... damn, and I was planning on rolling a Trooper.   :P
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on November 22, 2011, 08:08:23 PM
Now that I used the force (and had more time) I figured it out and I'm currently downloading the game!  Woot!   :D

http://www.ign.com/wikis/star-wars-the-old-republic

Tony, now that the NDA has been lifted, would you care to give your impressions? 
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: scobeto on November 22, 2011, 09:15:50 PM
Yes, I just read that!

I really just scratched the surface of the game, playing a few characters in their starting worlds.

It plays like a mash up of WoW (I am not sure it is possible to talk about any MMORPG without WoW comparison) and Mass Effect. Which I thought was a good thing. ALL of the interactions with quest NPCs on every home world were cinematic, which was really sweet. At times, you get light and dark side choices, but I didn't see how those choices affected my character. I don't think I got far enough into it to realize its impact.  I'm not sure side quests and other missions will be cinematic, but I hope so.

The voice acting was decent, I just wish you could pick your characters voice. Character customization has a nice selection, but does not go over the top like Skyrim. You can choose, scars, tattoos, height, hair, etc., but you don't get the feeling you need to spend hours doing it.

As far as graphics, I was happy my PC was able to run the game. I was on high settings and experienced limited visual hiccups. Whether those were crappy PC related or beta related, I do not know. I am a console gamer, so I am not the best judge in this regard. The textures were smooth, but not really detailed. I do like the visual style of the game.

Combat was a blast. Very smooth and the combat animations rock. Nothing better than your toon holding his light saber behind his back to deflect blaster shots while running away! Too cool.

At first I was disappointed after the first few quests, OK all the quests: It was very linear. I was really worried the whole game would be like this. There was little to do but follow the main story quest line. But once I made it off the home world, it looked like things were going to bust open. Once you get off your planet (about level 10, probably two hours or so), you get to choose your specialization and pick crafting specialties.

It was evident early on that group play was necessary to play. This may be a turn off for lone wolf players, but I had to group up to get through a couple of the quests at about level 8.

That is as far as I got. I made it off the home world with my Sith Inquisitor and chose to become an assassin so I would get a bitchin' double bladed light saber! Looking at the map on the ship, it looked like their were tons of quest NPCs and many vocations to check out. I think you could do two at a time.

I liked what I saw and am looking forward to playing again this weekend for a bit. I'm not sure how MMORPG and Star Wars fans are going to get by without giving this a shot for a couple of months. There is talk of "WoW Killer" on chat in game, but I think that is childish fanboy crap.

As a side note, the bounty hunter class was a lot of fun, too. My son, surprisingly, enjoyed this class more than Sith or Jedi!

I'll definitely be picking it up via digital download when it releases!
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on November 23, 2011, 07:23:27 AM
Nice... Thanks for the feedback.  Are you planning on playing on the Empire side at launch?
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: scobeto on November 23, 2011, 07:25:42 AM
I don't know. I haven't decided. We should definitely post characters and servers during the test for possible groupings! I usually pick the first PVE server in the list!
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Glockdeucedeuce on November 23, 2011, 09:29:40 AM
As Mike did, i also downloaded the beta client last night for SWTOR.  I am going Jedi guardian for my first toon.  Tanking and DPS are my forte.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on November 23, 2011, 02:06:36 PM
We're in a guild called ORD2 that will be a Republic guild.  It's a large guild that was originally ORD (Old Republic Dads), but they had to create a second guild since SWTOR only allows 500 people per guild.  They sounded like minded so Oscar, myself, and Jon joined up.  

I'm torn on what to roll.  The Trooper fits my play style, but the Smuggler definitely fits my personality.  I just don't want it to turn into a WoW Rogue like class b/c I didn't care for that.

With that being said, I don't want to roll my main during beta because I don't want to replay a bunch of stuff at launch.  The only Force sensitive class that really has me interested is the Sith Inquisitor so I may try that out during beta.  I do want to try out some of the grouping, so if it means jumping on the first PVE Republic server during beta, I'm good with that too.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: scobeto on November 23, 2011, 05:30:00 PM
I will say that logging in was not really a problem. I got booted once or twice and at one time logged in and was 768 in queue. It took about 30-45 minutes to get through that. Other than that, the server was stable.

I'd like to try a new class this weekend. I am not one to redo a bunch of quests, either. But I am torn because I want to try some non-starter world quests, but time will be limited due to the holiday. I may do a Sith again to complete quests and advance faster...
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: scobeto on November 26, 2011, 08:38:50 PM
The more I play it the more I like it :)

You actually earn credits for grouping and can spend those credits at special vendors.

The quests are engaging and interesting. The main story line is really compelling also. There are many gathering and crafting skills to choose from and it will be interesting to see how those help your character in the long term.

Once you get off your planet (about level 10, probably two hours or so), you get to choose your specialization and pick crafting specialties.

I think I was wrong here. I think it is longer. Probably closer to 4-6 hours if you do all the quests. Time passes quickly while you play!

I also forgot to mention companions. I think every class gets a companion character who travels and fights with them. They heal and attack and you can customize them with armor and weapons (I am not sure if these options are available for all companions though).

I'm all in for it. I have it preordered and got a cool black light saber with a yellow glow. I am sure the novelty of that will wear off quickly...

I am curious to what you other guys who got in this weekend think!
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on November 27, 2011, 11:00:29 PM
Gotta catch some sleep right now since I've gotten very little due to this game.  I'm loving it and it reeaaallly starts getting good after lvl 10 when you get your companion and do some flashpoints.  I'll post more when I'm not so tired, but I agree, it's a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on November 29, 2011, 10:54:45 AM
Ok so my first impressions were that the game was a little too easy and felt too much like a single player game, but both of those things changed as I played more.  The first 10 levels were straight easy mode and there weren't a whole bunch of reasons to group up save a couple of missions.  However, once you get to lvl 10 and get your companion, your advanced class, and get off the starter world the game really gets good and the difficulty level ramps up.

I ran a flashpoint called the Black Talon for the Empire and thought it was awesome.  It was a 4 person instance that had lots of action and group dialouge.  The group dialouge is a ton of fun because you never know how someone in your group will answer.

I just started crafting and didn't put a ton of time into it, but it seems pretty cool that your companions do that stuff for you.... you're a hero after all... you don't basket weave!

The combat felt really good and the feeling of throwing blaster bolts at someone didn't get old.  For a beta, it's the most polished game I've seen.  Way ahead of WoW's launch even.  

Gotta run to lunch... will try to post more later.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on November 30, 2011, 09:23:28 AM
Star Wars... now with holiday snacks.

http://dvice.com/archives/2011/11/edible-gingerbr.php
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Sparkz on December 13, 2011, 10:57:26 PM
I got the email today that I made it into early access, and it was a long day at work.  I also found a new high chair waiting on the front porch, with my wife anxious for me to assemble.  I did not have a chance to play the beta, and so far I have only had about an hour to play the game.  I created Skarlin, a Jedi Consular on the Vrook Lamar server, which is the one my LOTRO guild selected.  I like what I have seen so far, and the game launch appears to be going great.  We also got some good pics of the baby's first time eating cereal tonight in his new chair.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: scobeto on December 17, 2011, 11:15:59 PM
I'm in early access and damn, they need more servers. There is nearly always a wait to join. There should NOT be a wait to join...ever.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on December 21, 2011, 02:35:53 PM
I'm in early access and damn, they need more servers. There is nearly always a wait to join. There should NOT be a wait to join...ever.

They've been adding a ton of servers almost every other day.  On 12/20 I read that they lowered the server caps on existing servers to try to encourage new players to join less crowded servers and that they would raise the cap after a little while.  I've been lucky and have only seen a 25 minute wait as my longest.  My server was one of the originals though. 

WoW launch was horrible in comparison.  This has been one of the smoothest MMO launches I've experienced.  Server stability is awesome.  If you have a wait and get logged in and then have to go AFK for a bit, just find a safe corner to auto run in so you won't get logged out.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on December 21, 2011, 04:21:53 PM
More on this topic...

http://www.darthhater.com/articles/swtor-news/19815-a-warning-regarding-launch-server-queues

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Manager Stephen Reidís post on the official forum, he recommends players avoiding a certain list of servers unless they are prepared and willing to wait long queue times.  

Reid also noted that BioWare is in the process of employing population caps to dissuade people away from creating characters on those servers but will ease up on the cap over time.


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Population caps are being gradually raised on these servers, but raising them too fast will create an influx of new players and perpetuate the problem. We do not expect the queues to alleviate on these servers for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: scobeto on December 22, 2011, 05:33:17 PM
Fucking bullshit.

You buy the game which includes a month of play, but can't play it until you sign up for a subscription.

Bullshit. Horseshit. All four-legged shit.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: scobeto on December 22, 2011, 05:48:44 PM
So it won't even let you use what you have already fucking paid for.

In case you were wondering.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: scobeto on December 22, 2011, 05:55:29 PM
So if you go to the store right now and pay $60 for it, you MUST buy a prepaid card or a subscription online to play. THEN you get your 30 days which comes with the game.

Keep in mind that every day after you install the game after purchase, but cannot use unless you subscribe, is consumed, even though you can't play it.

Wow.



 
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: adamsappel on December 22, 2011, 07:51:05 PM
How long/much are subscriptions? Why even offer a month free if it doesn't start until after you pay? And, I'm assuming you can't subscribe-then-cancel and play for the rest of the month.

More MMO's should go the free-to-play route from the beginning, rather than waiting until there's no interest in them anymore.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on January 01, 2012, 02:44:10 PM
Free to play mmos suck.  I'm more addicted to this game than any other I've played.  There's my in depth review....  Pain in the ass to add much more from my cell phone. :P
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on January 13, 2012, 12:23:32 PM
I am still really loving this game.  I got a little bored with my Trooper and just kept playing him to get my legacy unlocked.  In fact, I really find the Imperial stories much more interesting.  I like my smuggler, but don't play him that much, maybe once a week.  That's because Jon and I usually try to create one toon that we only play when we're both on.  We're at lvl 19 right now.

I've tried all of the classes and got 6 of 8 past lvl 10, but I think the Bounty Hunter is my favorite.  Sith Inquisitor is up there, but ultimately I like the heavy armor afforded to me by the BH and the story is more interesting to me than the Trooper.

I usually don't like PVP, mostly because I'm not hardcore and thus suck at it, but I actually like it in this game.  I still suck at it, but am able to contribute enough to have fun and still come away with some commendations that I can use towards some kick ass armor.

There are no more server queues and I've tweaked some things to improve performance and the game runs pretty damn well for me. 

So, now that it's been almost a month, what are your impressions?

Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: scobeto on January 15, 2012, 11:46:32 PM
I Like it. It does some things so right (transparent map while traveling) and other things so wrong that you wonder if your missing something (items in bank don't auto stack). Really? How hard is that to accomplish?

The story quests are excellent.

DPS classes are virtually worthless in PVP. If you aren't a tank or healer you just hang out, get killed, and respawn for XP. I'm not a good judge though, because I suck at PVP. I suck hard. I always have, even in WoW. It seems really unbalanced to me, but I DO suck.

Running and jumping and trying to kill other players with a mouse just seems foreign. I have difficulty with PC platforming...there are items you can collect (datacrons or holocrons or some shit) which require much more PC platforming ability than even most PC gaming aficionados can muster. I ignore them.

I have a level 32 Smuggler and I have just now started toying with key binding.

My son plays a lot. he likes it. I am trying to break him from keyboard turning and getting used to keybinds (as fathers we want out sons to be better). He has adapted to binding much easier than me.

I like it more than WoW. Probably not because it is better than WoW, but I feel like I belong there more than WoW. Not just because it is based in the SW universe, but I was there from the beginning for this.

It is a solid, story driven game.

I'm still pissed about the subscription shit, but the game is worth it.

SWTOR tells stories much better than WoW. If you have a bunch of level 80s on WoW and just raid for epic gear, I'd suggest diverting funds to SWTOR and giving it a whirl. It is enough of the same to let you jump in, but different enough to let you feel like a kid again.

I'm all in.
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: scobeto on July 12, 2012, 08:16:53 AM
If anyone is interested in giving SWTOR a shot, PM me your email address and I'll send you an invite for a free trial. They will let you play up to level 5 to get a taste of what the game has to offer!
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on July 12, 2012, 12:16:14 PM
If anyone is interested in giving SWTOR a shot, PM me your email address and I'll send you an invite for a free trial. They will let you play up to level 5 to get a taste of what the game has to offer!

No need to.  They announced a free trial up to level 15 with no time limits.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/10/star-wars-the-old-republic-offers-free-trial
Title: Re: Star Wars the Old Republic
Post by: Xx Jester 76 xX on July 31, 2012, 08:24:51 PM
Well that didn't take long...didn't even make it a year.  SWTOR now free to play...

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/31/star-wars-the-old-republic-going-free-to-play