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Title: Pixar discussion
Post by: adamsappel on August 31, 2005, 10:16:42 AM
Slightly old news, but I just heard about it. Bummer. From hollywoodreporter.com (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/film/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001017138):

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Pixar's Ranft dies in crash

By Sheigh Crabtree
Aug. 18, 2005

Joe Ranft, Pixar Animation Studios' head of story for more than a decade and a cornerstone of the company's creative team, died Tuesday when the car he was riding in plunged into the ocean after running off the road in Mendocino County, Calif. He was 45.

A spokeswoman for the Mendocino County Sheriff-Coroner's Office confirmed Wednesday that Ranft was one of two people who died when the 2004 Honda Element they were traveling in veered off the road while heading north on Highway 1.


    
The California Highway Patrol said the crash occurred at about 3 p.m. Tuesday as the driver tried to regain control of the car after swerving when he headed into a tight left curve. The car fell 130 feet over the side of the road, overturning twice before it landed in the water near the mouth of the Navarro River where it meets the Pacific Ocean, the CHP said.

The driver, identified by the Coroner's Office as Elegba Earl, 32, of Los Angeles, also was killed in the crash. The third person in the car, whom the CHP identified as Eric Frierson, 39, of Los Angeles, survived by climbing through the sun roof. He was hospitalized with moderate injuries at Mendocino Coast Hospital, according to officer Robert Simas of the CHP office in Ukiah.

Ranft was a co-writer on 1995's "Toy Story," for which he earned an Oscar nomination, and 1998's "A Bug's Life." Before Pixar, he was a leading member of the story department at Walt Disney Feature Animation, where he was a writer on 1991's "Beauty and the Beast" and 1994's "The Lion King."

"Joe was an important and beloved member of the Pixar family, and his loss is of great sorrow to all of us and to the animation industry as a whole," the Emeryville, Calif.-based company said Wednesday. In addition to his work as a writer, Ranft performed the voices for numerous characters in Pixar features.

Director Henry Selick, Ranft's friend and longtime collaborator, called him "the story giant of our generation."

Before joining Pixar, Ranft worked with Selick as a storyboard supervisor on 1993's "Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas." Selick met Ranft at Disney in the early 1980s, and his first impression of Ranft was that he was "a huge guy" who was well over 6 feet tall.

"His drawing at the time was really crude, but he was the sweetest, funniest guy," Selick said. "I've never seen anyone try to improve himself as much as Joe did over the years."

He also was highly versatile, Selick recalled.

"He could do these beautiful sweet gags for a family film and then do these weird, depraved cartoons of anyone who needed to be skewered," Selick said. "We'd do hundreds of drawings, and Joe was always the guy who was able to go back in and say, 'This is about the process; let's try it again.' "

Ranft's voice-over work for Pixar included such characters as Heimlich in "A Bug's Life" and Wheezy the Penguin in "Toy Story 2."

Born in Pasadena in 1960, Ranft was raised in Whittier, Calif., where as a child he developed a fondness for performing magic tricks. He was a classmate of Pixar's John Lasseter at the California Institute of the Arts in the 1970s.

After two years at CalArts, Ranft joined Disney in 1980. In 1992, he reunited with Lasseter at Pixar, where his early work included pitching and storyboarding the first sequence for "Toy Story," the Green Army Men sketch.

"Every film Joe's name was on was successful artistically and financially," Selick said. "Sometimes he contributed small details, sometimes the whole thing. He was a story giant of our generation."
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: fetterdave on August 31, 2005, 03:00:06 PM
Driving along Rt. 1 scared the piss out of me.  I can picture this crash sooo easily.
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: sean80 on June 10, 2006, 03:28:53 PM
This was one awesome movie.  The animation is incredible and the voice acting is great as well.  They have real racers voicing some characters and the great part is they're racers from different leagues and types of racing from Nascar to Indy.  George Carlin as the old hippie van was my favourite character.  I would definately recommend everyone see this movie.  Paul Newman was great as well as the old Hornet car.  The sound effects in the movie were incredible as well.

Of course it had a short film to start it off which was awesome to watch.  It'll definately be a contender for the Oscar. 

One thing I should warn everyone with children about is that the movie with the short film runs nearly two hours plus previews.  However, it's a great movie for kids as it doesn't have any scary moments like Finding Nemo did and the children in the theatre sounded like they were enjoying it. 

Stay through the credits for a little bit as they have stuff going on then.
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: ICandee on June 10, 2006, 04:10:41 PM
Glad to hear this one was good.  I love Pixar films.  Hopefully I can make it to see this one soon.
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: Beer Monkey on June 10, 2006, 04:36:01 PM
Can't wait to see this.   I always see Pixar in the theater but we always wait a couple of weeks for the crowds of kids to die down.
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: scobeto on June 10, 2006, 05:21:33 PM
I would have hit this today, but my wife was/is working all weekend. My son already knows all the characters' names, a testament to marketing, and is looking forward to it.

All the hype aside, I was eager to see this movie when I saw the trailer a year ago.
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: scobeto on June 24, 2006, 06:05:03 PM
Got to see it today and I can second all of Sean's comments. It was a fantastic movie. My son enjoyed it also, although I think he was getting tired of watching it. Not because he wasn't enjoying it, but because it was so long and he is a typical four year old.

The short at the beginning, One Man Band or something like that, was great as well.

Like Sean said, there is a bit of fun during the credits and a short scene after they are all done, so stick around for the whole thing.

I can't wait for it on DVD as it will take multiple viewings to catch everything the geniuses at Pixar threw in there.
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: FLYING SE7EN on June 25, 2006, 08:51:36 PM
Saw this today with 2 of my kids and my brother and his two kids.  It was awesome.  Pixar can do no wrong.  Definite purchase when it comes to DVD.

J.
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: adamsappel on June 26, 2006, 12:59:59 AM
I used to take Chloe to "Reel Mom" day at a local theater when she was much younger, but my wife took her to this and Chloe loved it. She can't wait to see it again! Apparently, the short and trailers at the beginning confused her. "Where are the cars?"
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: FURIOU5 D on May 27, 2008, 10:25:53 PM
I AM SO STINKING EXCITED ABOUT WALL-E!!




...but I've always been a sucker for Pixar (even if I have been somewhat disappointed in the last two)
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: vortech on May 27, 2008, 10:41:41 PM
I AM SO STINKING EXCITED ABOUT WALL-E!!




...but I've always been a sucker for Pixar {agreement ends here - I like em all, Ratatouille the best.}
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: FURIOU5 D on May 27, 2008, 11:29:58 PM
I don't know much at all about Nascar (or any form of racing) so I probably missed a bunch of the jokes in the Cars.  And Mater's potty humor didn't do a great deal to endear the movie to me either.

I did like Ratatouille, but I went into it with really great expectations since "The Incredibles" is one of my all-time favourite movies.  It didn't quite have the same weight that I had expected from a Brad Bird film.

Don't get me wrong - I like them.  Heck, I own both of them.  I guess I just mean that the last two were my least favourite of the Pixar movies.  But among such great movies, even that isn't such a bad criticism.
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: vortech on May 28, 2008, 02:37:28 AM
As a long time fan of car racing, cooking, and criticism I note I may be partial. 
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: Phantom on May 28, 2008, 08:59:52 AM
As I've said before, the one I like the least (and I might go so far as to say that I down right didn't like) is Cars.  It's not just that I'm not into car racing all that much, but the movie felt dead to me. 

Ratatouille I liked far more then I expected to.  I may have just expected to like it more than Cars, but Brad Bird and Thomas Kellar concocted something delicious.

Firefox wants me to respell Ratatouille as Bouillabaisse.
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: FURIOU5 D on May 28, 2008, 10:54:38 AM
My wife's favourite quotation from Ratatouille is:

"One can get too familiar with vegetables!"

I recommend saying this often in polite company.
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: vortech on May 28, 2008, 02:10:54 PM
Oh, I think Cars is the worst by a country mile, but I still liked it a lot even if for no other reason than Paul Newman's story line. 
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: Phantom on May 28, 2008, 02:41:15 PM
Oh, I think Cars is the worst by a country mile, but I still liked it a lot even if for no other reason than Paul Newman's story line. 

It's probably what stopped me from falling asleep. 
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: fetterdave on May 28, 2008, 02:47:27 PM
Cars = Doc Hollywood
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: Phantom on May 28, 2008, 03:27:16 PM
I'd rather watch Doc Hollywood.
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: adamsappel on May 28, 2008, 04:15:22 PM
Merged a few of our Pixar threads (while also changing the response titles, so some of them make no sense).

I wasn't a big fan of Cars when I eventually saw the whole movie (I took Chloe again and she wanted to leave after a half-hour, and she never wants to watch it: "too loud"). It didn't have the emotional spark that other Pixar movies have had. There was no danger to any of the characters and I didn't find the relationships very meaningful. Newman was good, even LTCG did well. Just...no soul.

Ratatouille is great, one of my favorites. I don't really have a strong opinion on The Incredibles (I did like it, though), as it's the only other one I haven't seen numerous times. Chloe didn't really take to it.
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: vortech on May 28, 2008, 06:55:21 PM
The Writer of Doc Hollywood was my BA graduation speaker.  It was possibly the worst one ever.  the nadir was when he told the grads and their assembled families stories about prostitute job satisfaction.  On the other hand, he paid me to film the theatrical staging of Doc Hollywood, so it evens out in my book. 
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: sean80 on May 28, 2008, 06:57:54 PM
Thanks for splitting this off Allen.  You guys keep your OT discussion out of my thread.  ;) 

I love all Pixar movies, even Cars.  The story may not be the best but I think the animation and sound are incredible.   Incredibles is probably my favourite. 

Also, while I'm at it...if you haven't seen Iron Giant yet and think you're a Brad Bird fan, you suck.  :P
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: FURIOU5 D on May 28, 2008, 10:04:03 PM
Also, while I'm at it...if you haven't seen Iron Giant yet and think you're a Brad Bird fan, you suck.  :P

What about if you've seen Iron Giant, but think that the Incredibles is better?
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: sean80 on May 28, 2008, 11:22:43 PM
Also, while I'm at it...if you haven't seen Iron Giant yet and think you're a Brad Bird fan, you suck.  :P

What about if you've seen Iron Giant, but think that the Incredibles is better?

I've got no problem with that.  Everyone just needs to see the Iron Giant is all. :)
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: Phantom on May 29, 2008, 08:11:31 AM

I love all Pixar movies, even Cars.  The story may not be the best but I think the animation and sound are incredible.   

I agree.  The animation and sound are unbelievable.  It's truly awe inspiring.  However, the reason I watch Pixar movies isn't so much for the technical aptitude that is on display.  It's amazing storytelling that they utilize.  Storytelling that was missing sorely from Cars. 

If I wanted to watch something that was technically amazing and bright and shiny yet emotionally stunted, I'd watch Bad Boy 2.
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: FURIOU5 D on May 29, 2008, 12:14:17 PM
I've got no problem with that.  Everyone just needs to see the Iron Giant is all. :)

phew!

I just wanted the clarification.

I do like Iron Giant though.  It's just that I'm biased: Super Heroes trump Giant Metal Robots in my book (as they did in the Incredibles 8))
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: iPeter on May 29, 2008, 01:07:15 PM
I do like Iron Giant though.  It's just that I'm biased: Super Heroes trump Giant Metal Robots in my book (as they did in the Incredibles 8))

Uh-oh. Here comes The Iron Giant vs. The Incredibles, in theaters Summer '09!
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: Sparkz on May 29, 2008, 03:27:15 PM
The Writer of Doc Hollywood was my BA graduation speaker.  It was possibly the worst one ever. 

Not even close.  Dan and Marilyn Quayle spoke at my graduation.  I think they talked about how times were changing.  I can only remember this exchange: 
"Dan, remember back when we were in college, and people surfed the ocean?"
"Yes, honey, and now they surf the internet"

Thought I would do my attempt at setting another thread off topic.   :P
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: FURIOU5 D on May 29, 2008, 03:57:01 PM
Uh-oh. Here comes The Iron Giant vs. The Incredibles, in theaters Summer '09!

I'd watch it.  Sounds like a documentary.  Perhaps a peek inside the genius of Bird?

For now I remain excited about Wall-E.  :)
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: Phantom on May 29, 2008, 04:00:50 PM
The Writer of Doc Hollywood was my BA graduation speaker.  It was possibly the worst one ever. 

Not even close.  Dan and Marilyn Quayle spoke at my graduation.  I think they talked about how times were changing.  I can only remember this exchange: 
"Dan, remember back when we were in college, and people surfed the ocean?"
"Yes, honey, and now they surf the internet"

Thought I would do my attempt at setting another thread off topic.   :P

Tell me there was a rim shot.  Please?
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: sean80 on May 29, 2008, 06:57:02 PM

I love all Pixar movies, even Cars.  The story may not be the best but I think the animation and sound are incredible.   

I agree.  The animation and sound are unbelievable.  It's truly awe inspiring.  However, the reason I watch Pixar movies isn't so much for the technical aptitude that is on display.  It's amazing storytelling that they utilize.  Storytelling that was missing sorely from Cars. 

If I wanted to watch something that was technically amazing and bright and shiny yet emotionally stunted, I'd watch Bad Boy 2.

I didn't think the movie was that story-less.  Plus, I'll admit that one of the reasons I love Pixar movies is the animation, etc. 
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: iPeter on August 08, 2009, 01:06:12 PM
I like lists. From good to great...

10. Cars
9. Ratatouille
8. The Incredibles
7. Up
6. Toy Story
5. A Bug's Life
4. Wall*E
3. Toy Story 2
2. Monsters, Inc.
1. Finding Nemo
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: Phantom on August 08, 2009, 09:14:12 PM
I'm not sure I can list them.  I don't think 'd rewatch Cars unless The Boy wanted to.  I don't have a burning desire to rewatch A Bug's Life.  Pre-Cars I used to call it my least favorite Pixar movie, which was true.  But it was still pretty great.

I definitely liked Toy Story 2 more than Toy Story, but I hate saying that because I don't want to take anything away from Toy Story.  TS2 was just more heartbreaking. 

I want to see Up again.  I adored it on first viewing, but I want to see if it holds up on repeat ToddlerVision. 

EDIT: Fixed a typo that changed a remake of Doc Hollywood to an ALW musical.
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: vortech on August 09, 2009, 05:01:51 PM
Ratatouille
--
Wall*E
Finding Nemo
Monsters, Inc.
--
Toy Story 2
The Incredibles
Up
--
Toy Story
A Bug's Life
--
Cars

Not in order, but split into hierarchic levels.  Best I can do.  (And I still don't know if that's where Up belongs.)
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: Phantom on August 09, 2009, 06:55:32 PM
I think I agree with your groupings.  Up might move up a category if it holds up well on reviewings.
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: iPeter on November 17, 2011, 10:41:19 AM
Trailer for next summer's Brave:

http://youtube.com/v/5fPmKfcaaWk

And here's my updated list:

10. Toy Story 3
9. Ratatouille
8. The Incredibles
7. Up
6. Toy Story
5. A Bug's Life
4. Wall*E
3. Toy Story 2
2. Monsters, Inc.
1. Finding Nemo
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: iPeter on July 10, 2012, 08:40:45 PM
Finding Nemo will come to Blu-Ray on December 4. (http://www.amazon.com/Finding-Five-Disc-Ultimate-Collectors-Edition/dp/B00867GHS8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341967190&sr=8-1&keywords=finding+nemo+blu+ray)
Title: Re: Pixar discussion
Post by: Rudy on February 23, 2013, 01:10:13 PM
My favorite is Monsters Inc., and we went to see it when it made the rounds in 3D a couple of months ago.

I haven't seen a couple of them yet, but overall I just can't warm to Finding Nemo.  I actually like Cars a little better, mainly for the automotive references, but I agree the story isn't quite as good as the others.  It doesn't matter though--I'll still watch any Pixar movie that I can!