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Re: Gaming in the News
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2006, 01:04:09 PM »

Hmm, there really is a ton of stuff one could ramble on about for this topic.  I’ll try to keep it short.  It all really is the parent’s responsibility; the problem is most parents these days aren’t responsible.  Many politicians will try to use that to their advantage.  “Vote for me and you won’t have to be a real parent!”  I hate it when the government thinks it needs to wipe our ass for us. 

Video games, TV, movies, they all make great babysitters.  We’ve fallen prey to that in our household many a time.  I’m not really proud of that but the truth is it does happen.  I don’t always think it’s a bad thing however.  Those are the things that Max really enjoys (he’s an avid reader as well), so if he’s happy doing it, why not?  I’m sure someday he’ll be on a board just like this one (hopefully).  Are we afraid of him being exposed to violence and sex?  Yes, but we try to regulate it fairly.  I’m actually more afraid of the violence than the sex.  He doesn’t get to watch many of the shows we watch (CSI, Law and Order, etc.) because of the violence.  We’ll usually let him watch shows like That 70’s Show which a full of sexual innuendo.  Whether or not he understands it all I don’t know, but if he ever asks a question we answer him honestly. 

With movies it’s a bit easier now that he’s 13.  I don’t think I’ve seen a PG13 movie I wouldn’t want him watching.  R rated movies are not allowed unless if we’ve seen it and think it’s alright.  As I’ve mentioned before Max’s Dad let him watch Alien Resurrection when he was about 8 and he’s still not convinced Aliens don’t exist (they don’t, do they?). 

Just like all here my wife and I are well acquainted with video games and are therefore well equipped to regulate Max’s play of them.  Most T rated games are alright and a few M rated games are allowed as well.  To us it really boils down to what you’re shooting/fragging/killing.  Zombies, orcs, goblins, aliens, monsters, etc. are all fine.  If the targets are humans then it’s not an option.  I won’t even let Max watch me play GRAW and it’s rated T.  Speaking of which, how is GRAW rated T and Halo rated M?  That I don’t get.

This has rambled on long enough.  Basically, if the high and mighty politicians should be regulating anything, it’s who should be allowed to have children, not what games we should be playing.
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Re: Gaming in the News
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2006, 01:19:50 PM »

Mike,

You're right; for some of the more serious charges like contributing to the delinquency of a minor, I don't think you could successfully prosecute just based on an R or NC-17 rating (although I might take my chances with the latter).  The one Maggi cited, 14-190.8, still relies on the state's definition of obscenity (14-190.1).  If I were a crusading conservative DA, I think I might have a go at a movie theater that allowed a child into an NC-17 movie, especially if it had a fair amount of graphic sex in it.

I have to confess I've never really looked at any local ordinances which purport to specifically criminalize underage movie attendance; I'll do a few Westlaw searches and see what I come up with.
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Re: Gaming in the News
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2006, 01:57:22 PM »

This is some good readi<snore>
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Re: Gaming in the News
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2006, 02:18:00 PM »

Here Bryan, I'll summarize for you:

Polotiks r teh dum


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Re: Gaming in the News
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2006, 01:17:42 PM »

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Re: Gaming in the News
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2006, 05:50:41 PM »

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At 18 months, they can go to hobby shops, get extra visiting hours and attend cell-block ice-cream socials.

I can see the sitcom already....
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Re: Gaming in the News
« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2006, 11:09:43 PM »

Video games curbing violence in Oregon prisons

Funny, I would think that 16-20 hours every day of busting up huge rocks into itty bitty rocks would do the same.

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At 18 months, they can go to hobby shops, get extra visiting hours and attend cell-block ice-cream socials.

I can see the sitcom already....

The bitch swapping parties are a real hoot, too. They'll save those episodes for sweeps week.
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Re: Gaming in the News
« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2006, 05:06:57 PM »

Finally something good that a videogame made someone do.  I think this is pretty cool especially since my love of Nascar grows with each race I watch. 
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Re: Gaming in the News
« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2006, 05:39:56 PM »

Does anyone else not see when Sean makes a link? The color red doesn't show up for me.
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Re: Gaming in the News
« Reply #39 on: June 22, 2006, 01:13:47 PM »

The June 21 episode of The Daily Show had a good story on videogames in politics. The funniest stuff was when they sent Samantha - The Daily Show's "Resident PlayStationologist" - to "San Andreas" to hear what the citizens have to say. The most insane stuff was Congressman Joe Pitts who said:
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It's safe to say that a wealthy kid from the suburbs can play GTA or similar games without turning to a life of crime, but a poor kid who lives in a neighborhood where people really do steal cars or deal drugs or shoot cops might not be so fortunate.
Stewart then said what we were all thinking:
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Wealthy suburban kids don't do that kind of thing, like my good friends, those fine Columbine boys.
You can see the video here. Click on "Player Haters."
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Re: Gaming in the News
« Reply #40 on: September 21, 2006, 02:53:08 PM »

This is more of a dumbest criminals story but it does tie into videogames.  A guy out in Vancouver, B.C. was busted stealing cars by the RCMP.  He was identified by his rather large "Grand Theft Auto" tattoo across the back of his shoulders.  My favourite part of the story though:

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"Police said during the stakeout they also watched Kujawski thwart his own attempt to drive away in another stolen vehicle by accidentally disabling the car with the owner's steering wheel lock."
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Re: Gaming in the News
« Reply #41 on: September 29, 2006, 12:59:35 PM »

Good old Jack Thompson:

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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. -- Family members of three people slain by a 14-year-old on newsman Sam Donaldson's New Mexico ranch sued the makers of the video game ''Grand Theft Auto: Vice City'' on Monday, claiming the crimes would not have occurred had the teenager never played the violent game.

The $600 million lawsuit names several companies and Cody Posey, who it alleges played the game ''obsessively'' for several months before he shot his father, stepmother and stepsister in July 2004.

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According to the suit, plaintiffs' lawyer Jack Thompson was told by a sheriff's deputy that the game and a Sony PlayStation 2 were found at the ranch.

Posey had told police he shot his family after his father, the ranch foreman, slapped him for not cleaning horse stalls fast enough. Prosecutors described Posey as a ruthless killer, but his lawyers claimed his father had abused him for years.

The plaintiffs accuse the corporate defendants -- Sony Corporation of America, Take-Two Interactive Software Inc. and its subsidiary, Rockstar Games -- of a ''civil conspiracy,'' saying they should have foreseen their entertainment ''would spawn such copycat violence.''

Once again Mr. Thompson, no one is responsible for their own choices and actions, it's always someone else's (or GTA's) fault.  In your face, civil conspiracy!  USA! USA! USA!

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Re: Gaming in the News
« Reply #42 on: September 29, 2006, 01:40:39 PM »


Once again Mr. Thompson, no one is responsible for their own choices and actions, it's always someone else's (or GTA's) fault.  In your face, civil conspiracy!  USA! USA! USA!

Read full "article" here.


Oh I don't know....thanks to video games, I'm ready for when the zombies, space aliens, killer robots, Nazi soldiers, demons, devils, mushroom ppl, ghosts, and mutants attack! :D


seriously thought Icandee....this is just plain sad that ppl actually buy this crap!  I hate it!  "Oh god please don't hate me...I had to kill them all because the TV told me to!  If I had never watched the tv, they would have lived"

right,  Have a seat buddy well we throw enough juice through you to light up a small town! 
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Re: Gaming in the News
« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2006, 01:42:45 PM »

Yeah and Chromehounds caused me to fashion a Mech out of a washing machine, a treadmill, a microwave, and a machine gun and then go out and shoot other household appliances or soda machines.  

CoD2 caused me to shoot myself because I'm part German.

Burnout caused me to drive as fast as I could into oncoming traffic to score points.

C'mon, this stuff drives me nuts.  It's like smokers suing tobacco companies or fat people suing McDonalds.  The fries don't make you fat, eating them does.  hehe

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Re: Gaming in the News
« Reply #44 on: September 29, 2006, 01:57:02 PM »

What I find (at least my impression from reading this specific article) most interesting is that it's not the kid that is saying video games/GTA made him kill, it's the family members and their attorney, Jack Thompson that's saying it.  This kid told police it was because his father abused him.  Now what are the chances that Thompson got them on the "GTA did it" bandwagon? 
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